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I enjoyed the privilege of being in conversation with Deborah Levy and this paper is a brief account of our dialogue. Deborah read from two of her novels, Swimming Home (2012) and Hot Milk (2016), and we discussed the points of contact between her writing and compositional process, reading her work and listening as a psychotherapist. She spoke of the importance of a back story and we thought about the way that history lies behind actions in the present, about the enduring impact of trauma and the transgenerational transmission of trauma.