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M: Mark Winborn
G: August (Gus) Cwik
Today, on behalf of the Journal of Analytical Psychology, I'm honoured to interview an esteemed colleague and close friend, August “Gus” Cwik. Gus and I have been friends for about 15 years and have had many interesting conversations about the analytic process.
Gus is a clinical psychologist, hypnotherapist, and Jungian analyst in private practice in Chicago. He is a member of the Chicago Society of Jungian Analysts and the Inter-Regional Society of Jungian Analysts. He serves on the Editorial Committee of the Journal of Analytical Psychology and the Executive Board for the Archive for Research in Archetypal Symbolism. He was Co-Director of Training of the Analyst Training Program and the Clinical Training Program in Analytical Psychotherapy at the C. G. Jung Institute of Chicago. He has published on thirdness, the structure of analysis, alchemy, supervision, dreams, active imagination, training, and numerous reviews and was a plenary speaker at the 2016 IAAP Congress in Kyoto. Gus has had broad influence on the international Jungian community both as a writer and presenter.
M: Welcome Gus
G: Hi Mark!
M: To begin, tell us how you became interested in Jung and psychoanalysis.
G: Yes, my original training was in chemistry. I had a Bachelor of Science degree and planned to parlay that into a draft deferment. This was the Vietnam era. But they'd done away with the deferments, and it was the first year of the [military draft] lottery. It's the only lottery I've ever won! I knew I would be drafted but found out that the Army had a food inspection department, and I could use my chemistry degree to get into that, but I had to commit for an extra year. So, I enlisted (see figure 1). That three-year stint was a period of exploration.
I started exploring altered states of consciousness and experimented with psychedelics, tryi