In reply, I raise a metaphorical glass to celebrate kinship with Philip Ringstrom, a fellow laborer in the relational vineyard. Drawing from his commentary, I note examples of how a colleague's intersubjective understanding carries meaning forward. Ringstrom takes what I have said into his unique experience and relays it back to me in a new way. I feel both deeply understood and challenged. I restate what I believe Russell means when he refers to “the crunch” in therapy; and my “take” on Ringstrom's misunderstanding of Russell then leads me to an exploration of ways in which Philip and I may differ as we conceive the treatment frame. Finally, by implication, I hope to have highlighted, through our dialogue, that relational analysts do not define themselves by particular “agreements” but, rather, that they share a common attitude and context in which we continue to labor and explore.