This interview/dialogue considers how a body's materiality and desire assume fleshly form as a series of relational/embodied bids that extend, construct, and undo sensations, perceptions, and relations. Salamon's employment of both phenomenology and psychoanalysis toward an enhanced notion of a bodily schema and the body ego are queried and discussed. Particular attention is paid to how Salamon seeks to illustrate transgendered bodies, desires, and identities as they are lived, materialized, and fantasized.