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In the papers by Sue Grand and Jill Salberg that form the panel, When the Personal Helps Us Write the Political, both authors use autobiography to activate the text as they explore ever more elusive dimensions of whiteness. In lieu of the traditional panel discussion, a more personal approach seemed fitting. In conversation with interviewer Masha Borovikova Armyn, the stakes involved in exposing personal and political struggles on the written page are examined both as acts of storytelling and, at a more granular level, in marks of a social unconscious that peeks out of the text in decisions such as how to spell racialized terms.