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Introduction: This is the recorded spontaneous discussion of the papers by Drs. Carr, Stolorow, and Camp, as well as general issues from the conference. This includes the speakers, as well as questions/comments from the attendees.
Harmon Biddle: Thank you so much, Mike.
Dr. Johnson: So, we thought it would be interesting, we’re going to ask Dr. Stolorow and Dr. Carr to rejoin and then we’re going to roll right into the questions. So, we already have four participants on deck.
Participant: Ah, yes. I was very interested in what was said about working with the PTSD people by Dr. Carr, in which they would talk about what was meaningful in their life and I was reminded of Viktor Frankl’s work on Holocaust, concentration camp prisoners, in which they would find something that was meaningful for them such as looking outside the window and seeing the change of seasons or wanting to return, to stay alive to see one of their loved ones, or to write a book that they had planned to do, the book called by Viktor Frankl, From Death Camp to Existentialism, and then later, I think, Man’s Search for Meaning. So now, I’m very interested in how that would relate to helping people speak about the meaning that they search for, also, related to what a participant said about containing both the pain, as well as the hope, in working with traumatized people.
Dr. Carr: Sure, I think first of all, we’re talking about a little bit, well obviously vastly different contexts, but also just in terms of setting of a hope keeping you alive during the moment, in a concentration camp or maybe other horrible situations versus what I was talking about, looking at future meaning for what happened. What I was maybe referring to, in a different way, or refer to now in a different way, is restoring a sense of time or temporality for the people. You know, when we’re talking about therapy later, after the events, when they’re in a traumatized state and really are trapped back in that time in a sense. And helping