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Virginia Hunter: What did you do after you finished medical school?
Ernest Wolf: I had a general internship in Cincinnati at the Jewish hospital. During that time, I applied — I hadn't made up my mind yet that I was going to be a psychiatrist — I applied for psychiatric residency and for residency in just general medicine. I took one of the psychiatric residencies. I did it after being interviewed by Maurice Levine who was the chairman. I was so impressed that this was the place I wanted to be trained. I also was accepted at Tbpeka by the Menninger Clinic, but I preferred Cincinnati.
VH: Why?
EW: I thought it was a better residence. I thought —when I went to Topeka for my interview — Topeka is a cow town! It's a small town, with not much going on. Cincinnati is a big city which has opera, which has a symphony. I decided to stay in Cincinnati where I had made some friends. I haven't regretted it. It was a good residency. It pointed me directly to Chicago, to do like these other faculty people, to get my analysis in Chicago. Since I had had tuberculosis, I couldn't do like they did and commute on the weekends.
VH: Because you had to rest.
EW: Because I needed too much rest. So I had to move to Chicago to get my analytic training.
VH: So who was your analyst?
EW: The first one was Maxwell Gitelson. He was a very, very well-known analyst. He was president of the American Psychoanalytic
Association at the time that I was in analysis with him. I was in analysis with him for two years.