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In this essay I elaborate some of the seminal ideas in Saketopoulou’s article ‘To Suffer Pleasure,” contrast them to Foucault’s notion of technologies of the self, and consider the uses of psychic work and physical pleasure. I highlight the importance Saketopoulou makes of a corporeal solution to intergenerational conflicts and consider ego shattering as a site of encounter: with the limits of signification in the body and its emergence at the edge of the social.