In this conversation David L. Eng and Shinhee Han sit down with the guest editor of this issue, Mary Kim Brewster, to speak informally about their 25-year collaboration, how they came to write together about the psychic lives of Asian Americans, their observations regarding the mental health and well-being of Asian Americans from their individual perspectives of the clinic and the classroom, and their recent work exploring the racial rage and racial guilt that Asian Americans are socialized to hold for others. Reflecting on the arc of their writing and clinical work Eng and Han speak to how centering the experience of the unthought Asian American subject, in the context of an untaught Asian American history, illuminates the disturbing thought of race at the heart of psychoanalytic theory and practice. This conversation has been edited for clarity and length.