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The article finds that the two rapporteurs, H. Suarez Labat and C. Barazer, albeit in different ways, pay the same attention to the way in which identification appears to have (or not to have) a processual character. There are more references to countertransference in the first report (which allows the author to offer a clinical vignette) and more approaches in the second report to the paradoxes presented by the unconscious nature of identification.