The discussant considers J.-B. Dethieux's report to be an exploration of the reflections of pre-psychic/psychic traumas of analysands. He emphasizes the concept of return, the “return” of traumas in particular, and the forms of this return, not only in relation to the perceptual-sensory domain, but also to motility or action, highlighting the analyst's participation through his or her countertransference. In other words, the aprèscoup in the second topography constitutes a complex post-traumatic function. He also emphasizes the importance of negative traumas, as well as construction as co-construction and repositioning in the context of the past.